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		<title>By: Billy Wallbike</title>
		<link>http://wallbike.com/blog/2009/07/18/berthoud-saddle-reviews/comment-page-1/#comment-33146</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Wallbike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 22:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from an email . . . 
 
Hi Bill: 
I purchased a Berthoud saddle from you in March 2010 and wanted to give you some feedback. I love this saddle! It do take some time to break in, I had ridden about 500 miles and it was still stiff. I rode in a century ride in the rain and that was when everything changed. When I started the ride it was still stiff, when I finished the ride it was perfectly fitted to my anatomy. I have ridden many time since the century and it continues to be on of the best saddles I have used. 
 
Regards, 
mark </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from an email . . . </p>
<p>Hi Bill:<br />
I purchased a Berthoud saddle from you in March 2010 and wanted to give you some feedback. I love this saddle! It do take some time to break in, I had ridden about 500 miles and it was still stiff. I rode in a century ride in the rain and that was when everything changed. When I started the ride it was still stiff, when I finished the ride it was perfectly fitted to my anatomy. I have ridden many time since the century and it continues to be on of the best saddles I have used. </p>
<p>Regards,<br />
mark</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Wallbike</title>
		<link>http://wallbike.com/blog/2009/07/18/berthoud-saddle-reviews/comment-page-1/#comment-30034</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Wallbike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 01:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From an email. . .   
 
Just a note to let you know my thoughts on the Berthoud (Aravis) saddle. First off this is a quality piece of kit, the craftsmanship is superb, something saddly lacking in alot of other components today. I am very familiar with leather saddles and do have a preference for their feel and longevity. This however means a little work to bed them in properly. I have a quick and simple way to determine this. Out of the box rap the top of the saddle with your knuckles, a new one will give you a hollow hard ring (no new leather saddle should be soft out of the box), once it is bedded in rap your knuckles on it again and you should get a dull thud. 
               Thats the easy bit. I ride a 200k brevet every month along with 300k, 400k, 600k, and 1000k every year. I mounted this saddle for a 600k event and took the plunge. Whilst not uncomfortable it was a tough ride on a brand new saddle. After the event I removed the leather shell (good idea) and rubbed a half teaspoon of neat&#039;s foot oil on the underside of the leather and let it sit for an hour. I then repeated this step and put the shell back on the frame. I then rubbed a small amount of the oil on the topside on the saddle. I have since completed three 200k events and after the final one this weekend consider the saddle bedded in. The total miles to date on the saddle are 830. 
               I find the Aravis now very comfortable even compared to the venerable Brooks B17. The Brooks has more of the feel of a hammock whereas the the Aravis seems to keep its shape whilst also being comfortable. I would say it encourages a more aggressive riding position. My own set up has the saddle 1/2&quot; higher than the handlebars. I will be using it for a 1000k event in late August.  
               The dye in the saddle does tend to wear easily and mine now appears brown in the sun compared to the original black, I do not think this is detremental but others may. One other thing that works for me is the (KlickFix) mount as I have a small berthoud saddle bag, this tidies up the rear of the saddle.  
                All in all I would say it is worth the investment if your willing to invest the time. 
 
(Note from wallblog:  Brooks, Gilles Berthoud, or Wallingford Bicycle Parts do not recommend the use of Neatsfoot oil or any oil-based leather conditioner for treating leather saddles. Wax-based treatments, like Proofide or Berthoud leather conditioner, are much better for the life of the saddle.) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From an email. . .   </p>
<p>Just a note to let you know my thoughts on the Berthoud (Aravis) saddle. First off this is a quality piece of kit, the craftsmanship is superb, something saddly lacking in alot of other components today. I am very familiar with leather saddles and do have a preference for their feel and longevity. This however means a little work to bed them in properly. I have a quick and simple way to determine this. Out of the box rap the top of the saddle with your knuckles, a new one will give you a hollow hard ring (no new leather saddle should be soft out of the box), once it is bedded in rap your knuckles on it again and you should get a dull thud.<br />
               Thats the easy bit. I ride a 200k brevet every month along with 300k, 400k, 600k, and 1000k every year. I mounted this saddle for a 600k event and took the plunge. Whilst not uncomfortable it was a tough ride on a brand new saddle. After the event I removed the leather shell (good idea) and rubbed a half teaspoon of neat&#039;s foot oil on the underside of the leather and let it sit for an hour. I then repeated this step and put the shell back on the frame. I then rubbed a small amount of the oil on the topside on the saddle. I have since completed three 200k events and after the final one this weekend consider the saddle bedded in. The total miles to date on the saddle are 830.<br />
               I find the Aravis now very comfortable even compared to the venerable Brooks B17. The Brooks has more of the feel of a hammock whereas the the Aravis seems to keep its shape whilst also being comfortable. I would say it encourages a more aggressive riding position. My own set up has the saddle 1/2&quot; higher than the handlebars. I will be using it for a 1000k event in late August.<br />
               The dye in the saddle does tend to wear easily and mine now appears brown in the sun compared to the original black, I do not think this is detremental but others may. One other thing that works for me is the (KlickFix) mount as I have a small berthoud saddle bag, this tidies up the rear of the saddle.<br />
                All in all I would say it is worth the investment if your willing to invest the time. </p>
<p>(Note from wallblog:  Brooks, Gilles Berthoud, or Wallingford Bicycle Parts do not recommend the use of Neatsfoot oil or any oil-based leather conditioner for treating leather saddles. Wax-based treatments, like Proofide or Berthoud leather conditioner, are much better for the life of the saddle.)</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Wallbike</title>
		<link>http://wallbike.com/blog/2009/07/18/berthoud-saddle-reviews/comment-page-1/#comment-27736</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Wallbike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From an Email 
 
&quot;My initial impression is favourable, I&#039;ve used it for a couple of hundred miles or so on both bicycle and tricycle, swapping it with a new Swift.  I prefer the G.B., although the Swift is pretty good. 
 
A cautionary note:  When I received the saddle the stainless countersunk screws were &quot;finger tight&quot;, as recommended I used some Loctite and snugged up the screws, during this process one socket became deformed.  Should I ever have to remove the leather top I might have difficulty removing this screw, perhaps a warning to future customers might be in order.&quot; 
 
&quot;Overall I&#039;m very happy with it and look forward to using it for many miles. 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From an Email </p>
<p>&quot;My initial impression is favourable, I&#039;ve used it for a couple of hundred miles or so on both bicycle and tricycle, swapping it with a new Swift.  I prefer the G.B., although the Swift is pretty good. </p>
<p>A cautionary note:  When I received the saddle the stainless countersunk screws were &quot;finger tight&quot;, as recommended I used some Loctite and snugged up the screws, during this process one socket became deformed.  Should I ever have to remove the leather top I might have difficulty removing this screw, perhaps a warning to future customers might be in order.&quot; </p>
<p>&quot;Overall I&#039;m very happy with it and look forward to using it for many miles.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Wallbike</title>
		<link>http://wallbike.com/blog/2009/07/18/berthoud-saddle-reviews/comment-page-1/#comment-26587</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Wallbike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 22:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From an Email 
 
&quot;I have been using the new Berthoud saddle,and I have to tell you- it is wonderful !! Not just comfortable, but the integrated click fix works well and the saddle is a work of art. Thanks !&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From an Email </p>
<p>&quot;I have been using the new Berthoud saddle,and I have to tell you- it is wonderful !! Not just comfortable, but the integrated click fix works well and the saddle is a work of art. Thanks !&quot;</p>
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